Peter:
[0:00] Well, welcome back everyone to the Inner Power Podcast and I'm so excited because it has been a while to hook this one up, but I'm joined by my absolute dear friend and energetic powerhouse as well, Cara Bundy Dunn. How are you?
Kara:
[0:16] Hello, my dear friend, Peter. I am so excited to be here and I'm so glad that we got this on the books and we're making it happen.
Peter:
[0:24] I know. And this is like, of course, anybody who's familiar with the good old podcasting world, It's always nice that we do some swap season. I've had the privilege of being on Cara's Energetics podcast before. And I was like, I was there and going, oh my God, I remember when you rebranded your podcast. And I was like, that is so frigging awesome name for a podcast. I was like, why couldn't I get that one? Guides, you let me down on that one.
Kara:
[0:48] Yeah, I love it. I love it. The Energetics podcast.
Peter:
[0:51] It's awesome to be here. It's like, so for those who don't know, Cara is a karmic leader. She's also a medium. But the beautiful thing is this lovely lady has absolutely just, into her journey and owning it 100% and she is here and she's going to talk us through this because this is so powerful and I'm so grateful to have you here to share this because you literally came from such a high corporate position and life and decided to flip the script and the switch and kind of go, you know what? I think I'm going to go a little bit spiritual here.
Kara:
[1:33] Yeah, 100%. Well, I'm excited to share this with everybody. Some people have their mediumship abilities awakened from the day they're born, and they have all of these intuitive gifts. And I think, how special is that? And how cool is that? But that just wasn't my story. And for me, it happened really right at the beginning of COVID. So at the time, I climbed the corporate ladder, like step after step after step. If you ever go check my LinkedIn, it looks like how to climb a corporate ladder, like masterclass. It's like be an individual performer, then a manager, then a director, then a VP, then an SVP, then an EVP, then a chief sales officer. It was like climbing the ladder step by step by step. And it just happened to be that way, where opportunities presented themselves. So at the time, I was the chief sales officer of an ed tech company on an airplane traveling all the time and then COVID happened. And I was grounded and I was home. And that was such a new experience for me to be home and to be not traveling all the time and working trade shows and sales pitches and all the things. And I had time to just think about what do I care about? What's important to
Kara:
[2:43] me? I had time to meditate. I had time to work with my energy healer and do Reiki sessions and all these things that I kept putting off because, you know, my busy corporate life. And um and then well with all.
Peter:
[2:57] Those acronyms and and uh.
Kara:
[2:58] Titles yeah letter profile it was the alphabet soup of linkedin let me tell you yeah and so then what happened was things started, shifting for me and i started like feeling energy in my body and i started paying attention to things and i went to a medium who told me i'm supposed to tell you you can do this too and i was like, you're crazy. That's banana pants. And I don't think you're telling me the truth. And she's like, I just channeled the messages, lady. I'm just here to tell you what your guides are saying.
Peter:
[3:29] Hang on. Did you then run off to another reader and get the same message? No. Because when people get those messages, they usually run off and go, nah, okay. That person's bonkers. They're not the real deal. Let's go and get another one.
Kara:
[3:40] It's funny because my ego told me, you're crazy. Keep me safe. But there was something inside of me that said, is that could it be true is that is that maybe possible like what what if i can holy shit what if i can yeah and that and so then i just sat with that for probably two or three weeks and i was like okay i'm gonna be brave and i'm just gonna do the things that she said i'm gonna see what happens i'm gonna see if anything comes through and things started shifting it was wild like i I would close my eyes and I would start to open them just a little, like just a crack. And I would see things, see waves of color. I was like, oh, that's different. I don't know. Is that what she's talking about?
Peter:
[4:28] Who's that?
Kara:
[4:29] Is that you, Grandpa? Are you in the waves of energy? And so I started doing that. And I started listening to high frequency meditative music and sound bowls and all of these things. And I just closed my eyes and I said, I'm just going to automatic write whatever comes out. I can't even tell what I'm writing. I'm just going to write. And I did that. And then things started stirring. I could feel things in my body.
Kara:
[4:53] I could feel pressure. And I was like, Oh God, I think something's happening. And then sure enough, like the very first really big download I got, I used to, my pen would move like yes and no, like yes, no, yes, no. And they started answering questions for me. And then it happened where my grandpa came through in a download and it was old fashioned cursive. And he said, my name is Edwin and that's my grandpa's name. And I said, grandpa, is that you? And he was always the person that came through whenever I did a reading with a medium. It was always my grandpa. And so I felt like, okay, this is real. And then I had like 15 pages of automatic writing and downloads of everything I've ever wondered. And I never wanted it to stop because I thought this might be the only time this happens. Like little did I know it would happen every day. But at the time, I didn't know that. Welcome to the dark side. Yeah. I was like, oh, well, if this is it, I want to know everything. Is Jesus real? What about this? How does this work? I mean, I literally asked everything on my brain. And then, of course, everything I've ever been shameful of, they were like, let's talk about this and let's talk about that. And I was like, oh, God, this is like worse than therapy. Oh, my God.
Peter:
[6:04] That's really interesting you bring that up. Sorry, I'm just going to interrupt you there. As you're going through that, and just for those who aren't aware, automatic writings when you're getting yourself into a deep enough meditative state where they will move your hand and they'll channel and write through you. And that's how I also started my journey was through that process. So that's what we can totally relate. It's like, oh, yeah, it's running like this. And I love that because you're in there going, oh, my God, this is happening. Let's ask all the questions. And you're saying that you had all these other questions like, geez, like all these things, but they wanted to take you on the personal journey.
Kara:
[6:34] Is that right? Yes, 100%. They're like, we'll answer that. However, we would like for you to like dig a little deeper, go a little inner, a little inner power. Yeah.
Peter:
[6:43] Yeah. I see what you did there.
Kara:
[6:46] Sneak that right in there.
Peter:
[6:49] She's good, people. She's good.
Kara:
[6:50] Yeah. It is a brilliant podcasting, by the way.
Peter:
[6:54] Inner power.
Kara:
[6:54] Inner power. Yeah. And so it felt to me like, okay, this is going to happen. And then I don't know if this is true for you, but I then was like, okay, this is the most amazing thing that's ever happened to me. And I'm really terrified to tell anyone. So I think I'm going to just kind of be in the zone of this for a little while and make sure I kind of can make sense of it because I could understand in my soul what was happening, but I didn't have the right verbiage to articulate it in a way where it could make sense to my skeptic husband, for example. I was like, oh, I don't have the words to explain what's happening. I'm like, I don't know what's happening, but this is what's happening. For somebody that isn't in the world, I could say that to you and you'd be like, oh, Kara, come on in. Let me help you.
Peter:
[7:40] I'm here to help you. Oh, wow. That happened to you. Oh, yeah.
Kara:
[7:43] Yeah, exactly. Like, oh, me too. Me too. But trying to explain these things that were happening to me intuitively to people that hadn't had that happen to them yet, it took me a bit of time to learn how to articulate it in a way that I could explain it, which is why I think it's so powerful when you and I talk about energy and frequency and vibrations. I can make it make sense in more of a science way than just this is what's happening inside of my soul, if that makes sense.
Peter:
[8:11] It does make sense. And I think that's a really valid point. I know for a fact I had a little bit more of a challenge because obviously I was a bit younger, but as you said, it happens at any point and it doesn't matter what point you have that shift in awakening or remembering, whatever, like it's just there. And like, you can just tell, like, if you've just taken or nurtured that little thought that Rita has given you and boom, like now you're writing 15 pages of automatic writing. I think it's just like it was always just waiting for you to open the door for it to kind of come out. But even for me, I know science was a great friend of mine to help understand what was kind of happening and also then to help explain to others. And I rely on that so much now to explain to people the mechanics of what's happening because I think for a lot of skeptics and stuff, as you know, like they don't, they also do not have the understanding or the verbiage and the, you know, to articulate where their skepticism is coming from. And that's where it was like, for us, it's like, well, there's actually signs and mechanics behind this if you're open to it. So, I like that. But just out of curiosity, you said that you kind of obviously, you sat with it and I can totally relate of, how do I explain this to the family?
Kara:
[9:28] What's going on?
Peter:
[9:29] Because as you said, and I love and I can relate to that so much where you're like, this is amazing this is like this is the bomb like I wish everybody could have this experience and then you're kind of like who else do I know who's had this experience yeah and it's so hard to sometimes talk about it when you have it so you said you kind of sat in that zone for a little bit yeah what was how long did you stay in that zone for that's.
Kara:
[9:55] A really good question it was probably a month or two of just me connecting with my guides, my loved ones in spirit, my team in spirit, getting downloads, understanding things, really working through this. And then they slow, I still hadn't told my husband. And then they slowly started giving me assignments. So the very first assignment that I got was to really teach me to trust the guidance that I'm getting from them. But my friend had lost her mom a year before that to cancer. And her mom swooped in when I was doing a download of automatic writing in my notebook. And her mom swooped in and said, Kara, this is Kathy. I'm like, Kathy? Like as in Amy's mom, Kathy? And she's like, yep, that's me.
Kara:
[10:37] Like a totally different bouncy energy. And she's like, I need you to tell my daughter to go to the Lake of the Ozarks. Okay, that's it. That's all. Okay, I'm off. Bye. And then like the page, zoop, a line across my page, like the energy was gone. And I could feel her shift out of the room. And I was like, holy grandpa. Like, I thought it was just you and me. What the hell is this like random peeps coming in thing? Like, I don't know how to handle this.
Kara:
[10:58] And I was, so then I asked my guys, like, what do you want me to do with that? Like, I don't, I don't, this, this evidently my channel was open and I, I didn't even know. Cause I was just getting downloads from all of you. And then now you're now other, you know, other people on the other side are coming through. I don't know what to do with this. And they literally said, call your friend, tell her you had a dream about her mom, and then tell her what her mom said. So I said, okay, I can do that. So I called my friend. I said, Amy, I had a dream about your mom last night and I need to tell you about it. She's like, okay, give me like five minutes. And she's like, runs outside, calls me. And I said, your mom. Okay. So I had a dream and your mom said to tell you to go. And granted, this is the height of COVID. Nobody's going anywhere. Your mom told me to tell you to go to the Lake of the Ozarks. And which is like in the middle of the United States. And she said, she started bawling. And I was like, oh my God, I'm so sorry. Like, I didn't mean to hurt. Like, did I say something wrong? I don't know what's going on. And of course, I'm freaking out like.
Peter:
[11:53] Shit, what did I do?
Kara:
[11:53] Don't shoot the messenger. So she lives in Minnesota, which is the northern part of the United States, close to Canada. And her cousin lives in Texas, which is on the Mexico border. So as far on the opposite sides of the United States as you can be, like opposite sides of the country of Australia. And they were going to meet halfway and drive for the new year. And they're like, if I drive and you drive, we can meet halfway. But I don't know if it's safe because of COVID. And so she literally prayed and said, okay, mom, if you can hear me, tell me if I should go or not. I don't know if it's safe or not. And so she goes, you're my answer. Like I cried. And she's like, I'm just crying because I asked my mom for a sign. I didn't know if I should go or not go, if it was safe or not safe. And then you hear, you go the very next day calling me, telling me. My mom's telling me I'm supposed to go. I'm supposed to go see my cousin and it's safe and it's okay. So things like that started happening. And I was like, Ooh, this is crazy. Like now it's, I'm doing kind of little things for other people. Like maybe I need to tell my husband.
Peter:
[12:55] Well, like I'm thinking to myself, you've got some serious taskmasters of guides because you know, here you are in an open channel starting to get you, you're on your training wheels, so to speak. It's like, right. It's like, we're already going to put you in the post-delivery service with your training wheels on, let's go.
Kara:
[13:11] Yeah, I didn't know, but it was like things like that are like, and they often would tell me to say a dream, you know, because you're really, and I didn't know this at the time, but you know, you're not really supposed to read for peeps unless they give you permission. That's kind of how like the spiritual laws work in terms of doing the type of work that you and I do. And I didn't know any of that because I was, again, a chief sales officer of an ed tech company doing this stuff on the side in my, you know, all my free minutes of the day, you know, which would be like a Saturday morning or a Monday night or, you know, things like that. But they would give me little assignments like that for me to trust that this really was real and it was happening. And then I started doing readings for people like for free because I didn't need the money.
Kara:
[13:52] I was in a corporate job and I wanted to help and I wanted to serve. And then eventually it became so intense in me that it felt like I needed to make a shift and do this more permanently. So I did.
Peter:
[14:05] And it's amazing, like it's water, that is like coming out of the race horse barrier, like boom, it's just open and here we go. And we're off down the straight and around the bend and coming in for the home run. Like it sounds like such an intense, like boom, like here it is, here we go and whatever else. So out of curiosity, I think the biggest question, like listening to your story is like, how long or when did you actually end up telling your husband and what was his.
Kara:
[14:36] Reaction because it was probably two or three months of getting of doing these things and then i finally said well honey i have something i need to tell you he's like okay and you could tell he was like oh shit like is something really bad coming you're gonna preface it with that well you know i was nervous i was a little nervous i didn't know what to say and so i said, you know how I've been doing these meditations and I've been hanging out, I've been doing all this stuff. Like, well, something more is happening. He's like, okay. I said, well, and I explained, I said, you know, I'm getting these downloads and I'm getting these messages and I can talk to my grandfather on the other side. And I get very vivid, you know, images, pictures, et cetera, kind of explained all the things. And his first response was, I don't know what you want me to do with that. And it was like.
Peter:
[15:30] Shit, that didn't go so well. Yeah.
Kara:
[15:33] Couldn't you just say, wow. Okay. That's kind of cool. No, that's not what happened for me. But I think this is part of my journey was that it wasn't meant to be so easy.
Kara:
[15:43] And it took us a while of lots of conversations and trying to figure out. And I said, well, I just want to tell you. I love you. You're my person and you need to know things that are going on with me. And he's like, okay. And then like a few months later, we'd have another conversation and another conversation. And then finally it was probably a good nine to 12 months. And I was like, okay, here's the deal. This is like really, really real. And you don't, cause he, I would tell him things and he would listen, but he didn't really say a lot. Like I'm here, you, and I'm listening and I'm not going to be disrespectful, but it doesn't make sense to me. And so he wasn't a jerk. He just, it just didn't make sense to him. And then finally I said to him, I was like, here's the deal. You do not have to understand who I am or what I'm going through. But for us to really make this marriage be a solid marriage for you and me and make this really work, I need you to at least have curiosity about me and about what I'm going through and what I'm experiencing, the same as I have for you. Even if I don't agree with you and even if I don't understand everything you're going through, I'm going to have curiosity enough to be open to learning about you because I love you. And when I said it that way, everything shifted. And he was like, okay. And then he started asking questions and he's actually going to come on my podcast in January. We're going to do an episode about relationships and when one person is skeptic and the other isn't. And how do you work through that? So we're going to do a whole episode about it. Yeah.
Peter:
[17:11] Oh, wow.
Kara:
[17:11] So maybe this is a little breadcrumb drop to that.
Peter:
[17:13] But yes. See how much she is, people? Thank you. She does what I plan.
Kara:
[17:17] There you go. Yeah. But it really took us a while to figure it out. But I asked my guides and they constantly told me, give him some time and let him catch up. Because I think this is really a powerful lesson for everybody to learn. And if they can take anything from this segment of this podcast, people do not grow in linear lines, in consistent patterns together. It just doesn't work like that. So you might be going through an exponential amount of growth personally, spiritually, professionally, and your partner might not be at that place. They might be in a sacred pause. And then they might be growing in an exponential way and you're not. So we don't always grow in perfect patterns together. And there's just some magic in holding space for someone and allowing somebody's journey to be uniquely their own. And my husband and I found a way to do that for each other in a really beautiful way. And I think that it makes us both stronger and better by being able to hold space for each other, even if things didn't make perfect sense for each other in our lives and our choices and who we're really meant to be. Because I know on a soul level, I'm meant to learn from him and he's meant to learn from me. And so that's just been a really beautiful thing to navigate our way through that.
Peter:
[18:36] I think that's a testament to both of you and your relationship and obviously the foundations that you had put in place with your relationship as well.
Kara:
[18:43] Yeah.
Peter:
[18:43] And it's been like, you know, it doesn't matter when this happens and this is – I love this and I love this so much and you articulate it so well because it is the journey and about kind of acknowledging this and it all of a sudden happens. Sometimes for some people, as we know, like, you know, imagine you've run into them, you've probably helped some of them by now in helping them. And so when you get people where at least, you know, you had a little bit more of a like choice and going, I'm going to nurture this and see where this is going to go. And you know, for some people it's like, boom, here it is. Sorry, you, we've been knocking at the door. You haven't been answering and we're tired. So we're coming in and we're going to open this door, whether you like it or not. So it's a bit like that, but it's nice. And I think, like I said, it sees the foundations you put in place because you can have those conversations. And I suppose, do you see that? Obviously, it's a journey and there's lessons in that for you, naturally.
Kara:
[19:38] Yeah.
Peter:
[19:39] But it would have been a really big test. Was there ever a point where you were thinking, like, obviously giving him time to recalibrate it, but did you have any kind of fears or worries? Like, oh, my God.
Kara:
[19:51] What's going to happen? Like, so many. Especially at the beginning. I'm like, what the hell? Like, how... I don't want to get divorced and I love my husband, but how the hell do I make this work? Like, how can I be with someone who doesn't really believe what I do is real? Like, how do I do that? Like that, I don't know how to work through that. And so much of what was going on inside of me was fear that lived outside of me. You know, it was like this fear of what if this happens or what if that happens or all of these fears that bubbled up. And really, it was my way of trying to protect myself. And what happened was I really, really learned a powerful spiritual lesson around each person's journey is uniquely their own. And if I believe that in my heart, and I know that to be true, and I've done readings for hundreds of people at that time. Now it's been thousands, but hundreds of people at that time.
Kara:
[20:48] And they all had lessons they were meant to learn and they all had their own path and their own story. So if I believe that and I know that in my heart, then that also means that's true for me and it's true for my husband too. So if that is true, then he is meant to, we were meant to be together and he was meant to have his journey and I was meant to have my own. And maybe, just maybe, I'm meant to learn how to hold space for someone who might be a skeptic or may not understand this world. And maybe, just maybe, he chose me because that was part of his journey, is to go from a skeptic to being more open.
Kara:
[21:27] And if you believe that, that every person's journey is uniquely their own, then you have to believe that you're meant to cross paths for a reason. You're meant to be in each other's lives for a reason. And I always had my team guiding me, telling me, give him time, and it's okay. But I did say, like, dude, if you can't at least have some curiosity for me and we can't have dialogue and conversation and we can't go deep with each other about this particular topic, I don't want a marriage where we just are a marriage of convenience because we have a kid together and we're a family. Like, you got to want to know me in my heart and I got to want to know you. And so I said, I need to understand why it's so hard for you. Tell me what's going on with you. And when you meditate, what's it like? And I decided to have a curiosity for him instead of a, why don't you have curiosity for me? Like, I'm going to, okay, what if I lead by example and I try to discover and learn more about you? I think that's kind of the magic is when we can do that for each other, whether you're a friend or a partner or a total stranger on the street. Like, everybody has a story. And I think the coolest thing about what you and I do is we get to help people in a really unique way understand their story.
Peter:
[22:43] How eloquently do you put this? Like, every time I'm like, I'm like, this is so powerful. They go, wait, it's like, got to take it. But it is so true. And I love that you can do that for it and holding space for him and having that curiosity. But it's just interesting too. You're saying like, so... When you're saying there, like you say, he's meditating. What was it like for him meditating? Was he like naturally meditating before you were having this?
Kara:
[23:04] Yes. He follows a guy by the name of Sam Harris who has like a huge community called Waking Up. And he's very pragmatic and very like stoic in his approach. And he doesn't necessarily believe in the afterlife, but he believes in like consciousness. And how do you really develop consciousness? And so we, so then we like have lots of conversations about this and like, do you have free will? Do you not have free will? You know, like all these things that we got into. And then we had like some of the most deepest, most profound conversations of our entire relationship in, and we still do. I mean, we love doing like a cup of coffee and going deep, you know, and it's just so cool now, you know, and it was a, it was a super powerful lesson for me though, to learn how to hold space for people, even if they can't hold space for me. So I don't need you. I need to know that I'm acting out of integrity and I'm acting in alignment with what my soul's purpose is. And you don't need to show me the same courtesy that I show you because my story requires me to do this. Like this is part of my soul's contract to do this, to hold space for people and to seek and understand people, even if they don't understand me. That's okay. They don't need for me to do that for them.
Peter:
[24:22] And I think you said that so well. It reflects on our journey because I feel like in our own development, in our own way, it's just I know that I've done a lot of deep self-reflection.
Kara:
[24:36] I bet.
Peter:
[24:36] On the journey and obviously with downloads and, of course, you've got all the other external, you know, experiences that input into that. But it's the deeper one and I feel like it's just that. And I know that through my own self, and I feel like, you know, I could totally relate to you having that little bit of a kind of comfort zone with yourself and your team and your own spirituality first to nurture that, to trust that, to develop that, you know, connection and relationship with self and, you know, the energy. That helps so much. And it's like, and it becomes, that's when I like going, well, that's the faith. It's like it's there. And this is a part of who I am and I can't change that now because it's what I always say, like, I love it when my guide said to me recently, I was like, for those, only those with the, you know, with the most courage are willing to seek this space out. And for those who do touch this space can never untouch this space.
Kara:
[25:30] A hundred percent.
Peter:
[25:31] And that's the thing. and I can hear like that saying so because like you know you're putting that and it's what a challenge to put that on with you know your partner your husband kind of going well you need this is this is who I am like I'm sorry this is this is where it's coming from like yeah this is what's happening so now with this journey you've gone through all of this so talk about this is a journey in itself this is like this is so powerful already but then you've gone through this and you're having these wonderful so how did it go from the corporate and alphabet soup on your linkedin to like making the switch and then getting your hobby on board and going you know what i'm gonna let that go a little bit yeah.
Kara:
[26:12] It's funny because we i mean we both had pretty high power jobs in and and we had our daughter and and it was nuts and once she got to like elementary age we both decided it was too hard on our family for us both to have really busy corporate jobs. And we didn't want to raise our family that way. We didn't want our daughter to be raised by, you know, babysitters and pick up and drop offs and chaos. So my husband had made the decision. He left his company, sold the stock in the company he had and became a stay at home dad and was going to like rock it out and worked part time for a nonprofit and like just whatever. Just doing golfing, a lot of golfing, to be honest. And I remember you mentioned that. Yeah, just living his best life, doing his thing. And there would be times where my ego would get the best of me. And I'd be like, are you going to ever go back to work? He's like, I don't know. We'll see.
Kara:
[27:08] And I was in this job. And so I was living a dual life. And the company that I worked for, the founders of the company are really conservative Christians. And I was like, if they find out that I'm also a medium, I'm for sure getting fired. It's going to happen. There's no away. Like we're, we're so out of alignment in terms of who I am that they wouldn't want me representing their brand. And then I really wanted to start my own company. So this was back in March of 23. So like a year and a half ago, probably, or so. And I was like, I want to start my own thing. I want to start my own thing. And my guides were definitely telling me, like, do it, but don't quit your job. And I was like, OK, OK, but I'm really ready to start my own company. Like, I've always had this entrepreneurial bug inside of me. I was like, I'm not exactly sure what I'm going to do, but I'm going to do something. And, you know, there's this executive once that told me, if you don't start your own company by 40, you never will. And I was like, liar, liar. Watch me, you know? And it was like the ego.
Peter:
[28:01] There's nothing like a challenge.
Kara:
[28:02] Yeah. Nothing like telling me I can't do something, buddy.
Peter:
[28:05] That's so entrepreneurial too. Like you can't tell me that.
Kara:
[28:08] By the way, when I started my company, he was one of the first people to message me and be like, wow, congratulations. But anyway, I digress. But yeah, so I, so they told me like, wait, wait, wait. And my team communicates me in stoplights, red, yellow, green, like just all the time. They'll flash me a stoplight in my mind's eye. So I immediately know if I'm supposed to do, not do something, pause and consider. And they kept giving me a yellow light, like, don't quit your job, don't quit your job, don't quit your job. And I was like, I'm ready, ready. I'm going to coach executives. I've been living the executive life. I know how to do that. I'm going to incorporate intuition. I'm going to do readings. I'm going to do, I'm going to have a little bit of both. I'm going to do a little bit of corporate work and a little bit of spiritual work, and it's going to be great. Yeah. And then we are both in this business by design community. So I joined this business entrepreneurs community and I still was working my corporate job. And I drafted, get this, I drafted my resignation letter. I was like, well, I'm ready. And I was going to offer to go part-time. I was like, what if I go part-time? Again, my husband didn't have a job. I was going to go start my own company. That's just not a lot of income flowing into the household in case anybody's wondering. That's not really.
Peter:
[29:14] It's that whole space of like, you know, financially, logically, this is not really adding up.
Kara:
[29:20] You know what I'm saying? That's like, okay. Oh, yeah. So I was writing this, drafting it, and I was going to wait a couple more weeks. And then I was going to turn this letter in and I was going to offer him to go part-time for six months and find my replacement. And I knew the industry really well and all of the things. And the CEO, I had a one-on-one with him and he's like, hey, Kara, I got some bad news.
Kara:
[29:39] And I was like, oh, this is the yellow light they were talking about. And he's like we're we grew too fast we are we don't have the cash flow to keep positioning where we're at like we've got to reduce expenses we've got to slow down our growth a little bit and unfortunately you make too much money and we can't afford to keep you so today's your last day and I was like oh okay and I wasn't even mad and literally my guides flashed up in the sky like in my mind's eye you're welcome and I was like oh you're gonna do this for me this is amazing I don't even have to quit. This is great. And he goes, and then they were like, but we have a severance for you. And so we're going to pay you this amount of money. We're grateful for what you did. We understand you took a huge risk to come here and help us build our brand. And so I used that money to start my company. And it was a blessing to receive that level of income to have that nest egg to use to help me really accelerate and start my business. And then I told my husband, baby, I love you, but mama needs some health insurance because we don't get that in the United States. Like that's just not like a given thing that you get. And so he made one phone call. He was like, I don't know. We'll see. But he was like.
Peter:
[30:48] Okay, okay, I got it.
Kara:
[30:48] Negus more golfing. Yeah, I know. Literally, whole world flashing before his eyes.
Peter:
[30:53] I can see my average in my dropping in.
Kara:
[30:56] 100%. And then he made one phone call to a company that had called him and tried to headhunt him like six months ago. And he's like, nope, sorry, very happy. And they're like, yeah, no, we haven't filled that position yet where we just haven't found the right person. And we actually thought we might split it into two jobs. But if you'd be willing to come in and then they offered him a job and, you know, and everything worked out great. And it allowed us to have some stability in our household and allowed me to really go all in on building, building this, you know, dream in my heart, this desire to serve and help people in this way. And so it was really like a dream come true, the divine timing of all of it. And my ego was not hurt at all. I literally was so grateful to my guides to allow me to be removed from that job without me having to quit and to be able to get a whole, you know, a whole retainer of money that was from my severance to, you know, say thank you for your service and your work and use that to start my company. It's like, I literally was like, oh, my God, guides, thank you. Thank you for answering my prayers.
Peter:
[31:54] But that's also, that's a testament to your trust. Thank you. Because, like, you know, let's face it, if your guys are working with you in terms of traffic light signals and, you know, red, you know, amber and green, you're getting the old amber. Like, I know for a lot of, I don't know about the- Do you say that in Australia?
Kara:
[32:11] Amber?
Peter:
[32:11] Is amber yellow? It's more British, but orange.
Kara:
[32:14] Oh, all right.
Peter:
[32:14] We call it orange, yellow, whatever you're about.
Kara:
[32:16] Yeah, we have to do everything our own way in the US, you know.
Peter:
[32:19] We've got to call it a yellow light. You get that color, that usually means speed up and get through it. Oh, yeah.
Kara:
[32:24] That's how I drive.
Peter:
[32:26] That's me. So, I was just going to ask, I'm like, are you, I'm thinking, you showed very good trust and self-restraint. If I had been shown that color, that'd be like, you'd have been like.
Kara:
[32:34] Okay, go, go.
Peter:
[32:34] Hurry up. Get through this. Put that resignation letter in. Get it done. Like, let's get moving. It's like, otherwise things are going to, you know, but isn't that interesting how, and again, it's a testament to learning and listening to what's coming through for you.
Kara:
[32:47] That intuition.
Peter:
[32:47] Because, you know, that can be interpreted in heaps of different ways. And then, and it is hard, like, because you're there going, but really, like, this is, I'm, I'm ready. I'm ready. And they're showing you, no, not yet, not yet.
Kara:
[32:58] Yeah, not yet, not yet.
Peter:
[32:59] We're not always aware of every factor involved of what's happening. So I love how that's worked out for you.
Kara:
[33:06] They were like, if you wait, we'll give you some money. If you don't, it's going to be harder. So you decide. They didn't say that, unfortunately.
Peter:
[33:12] Of course, they didn't say that. But it's like now, in retrospect, in hindsight, you know that's what they were saying. But yeah.
Kara:
[33:18] Yeah. So whenever they give me a yellow light now, I'm like, is there money behind that door? I will wait if you need me to.
Peter:
[33:24] Yeah. Yellow light means money. There's got to be something. That's right.
Kara:
[33:26] I was like, I'm not manifesting money. Give me all the yellow lights. No, I'm just kidding. Amber, orange lights. Yeah.
Peter:
[33:32] Yeah.
Kara:
[33:33] I need them.
Peter:
[33:33] But I love it. It's just like, you know, but you're kind of going through it. And then so now let's jump in four because I love that because it's such a huge leap of faith.
Kara:
[33:43] Yeah.
Peter:
[33:43] It's such a challenging like this. I mean like and you're doing this in the middle of so much going on around you environmentally as well.
Kara:
[33:50] Yeah.
Peter:
[33:50] Like so much kind of going on. obviously you know being a mom as well and you know raising kids but the whole point is is like with that so now let's just give people the full scope where are you now because you're the karmic leader you're jumping in a podcast it's honestly anybody listening to you would think that you've been doing this for years I think it's just like a testament like again it's just all been under the under the surface waiting to burst out and come out so where are you now and what's what's your life like now? So, because I love this, because we've got the insight of how you've gotten to here. I'd love if you share with the audience where you are now and what's exciting for you.
Kara:
[34:30] Oh, thank you. You know, I think, If anybody's listening to this going like, I wonder where I see myself in that story, you know, like everything that we do is a breadcrumb to our next thing. It's all meant to build on each other and help us. And everything I learned in the corporate world, I was, I loved leading people. I loved helping people find their talents and gifts in the world. And I loved helping them learn how to shine and how to like be their authentic selves and to do that in their work. So, so much of that still trickles into what I do today.
Kara:
[35:05] And so I coach people one-on-one through coaching containers. And it's super fun because I will do traditional executive or leadership or intuitive coaching, whatever people want to learn. But then we also do a reading and we tap into their guides and we see what they say. And I have to tell you, every single time we kind of do a structure and the corporate thing, and I kind of have an idea of what I think they need to work on. And then their guides come in. I was like, oh, that was good. That was real good. Why didn't you give that to me before the reading? That was a really good team. And they always have beautiful pieces of wisdom for people on their journey. And I would say more often than not, people come to me for coaching when they're going through, I would say... Career changes or dissatisfaction in their life. And they're kind of getting this like, I don't know. I don't know if this is what I'm supposed to be doing anymore. And I'm feeling like this bleh-ness. And I truly think part of that is part of a spiritual awakening. When you start to get dissatisfied with the status quo and what it is and what once gave you great joy is now maybe not giving you as much satisfaction. It just means you're meant to expand in other ways. So, let's help you figure out what that is and learn how to do that.
Peter:
[36:16] That's a huge thing. Like, it's like everything's been working, everything's been good or happy, and then all of a sudden it's not. And that's when people kind of start to freak out of like, but why not? Because sometimes it can creep up on you so subtly. And all of a sudden you're in that space of like, why am I not happy? And it can be a tricky one for a lot of people to kind of go, but what's kind of going on here? You're right. So, I hear you a lot on that because, again, it's very common, same thing, getting a lot of people going, I just, something needs to change. I don't know what it is. I need a little bit of help or a little bit of guidance and whatever else. And I love how you spoke about that going, oh, yeah, my team gave me some really good stuff.
Peter:
[36:55] It's just like, where was that before? Yeah.
Kara:
[36:58] But then, that is what it is, right? Because I'm tapping into their energy and their guides and giving them messages for their highest and best good. And there's nothing more powerful than that when it's for them.
Peter:
[37:09] It is.
Kara:
[37:10] Versus what I might see. Right.
Peter:
[37:12] Yeah.
Kara:
[37:12] It's not what you want.
Peter:
[37:13] It's what you need.
Kara:
[37:14] A hundred percent. So I love doing that. I love doing the podcast. I have the Energetics podcast where I interview awesome people like you because you're just such a kick-ass cat and I really enjoy that. And it's really fun for me. I'm really demystifying the world of mediums, energy, frequency, how we can use intuition in business and in life. And, you know, I just interviewed this lady and her son does energy work for like billionaires. And I made a joke and I was like, yeah, billionaires have psychics on speed dial, but millionaires think it's a crock of shit, you know? And she's like, I'm telling you that's true. I am telling you like that is actually what my son does for work. And that is 100 percent true. Like NASA billionaires, executives, they all have their intuitives and psychics on speed dial. But other people rising up through the ranks are like my ego, me, go, go, you know? So, it's funny. Like our President Reagan was a president of the United States. He had a psychic that he used and whatever, you know?
Peter:
[38:13] So, it's like- It's been around for centuries and not millennia.
Kara:
[38:16] Oh, I know.
Peter:
[38:17] That's why I always say to people, like if you really think this is a crock of crap, like let's go back. Every tribe, almost known to man, even ancient civilization has had a spiritual leader or conduit, shaman, whatever you want to call it. It has been around in us since the dawn of time. And I just, but I love it because with the tribes now global, And so, there's just, there's so many more of us that need to kind of rise up because there's so many more people to help and serve.
Kara:
[38:47] Yes, exactly.
Peter:
[38:48] So, I love it. And I love it because I think we're all kind of coming up from different angles because we've all got our own unique journey. I love yours because it's like, it's so corporate and executive.
Kara:
[38:56] Yes.
Peter:
[38:57] But it's great because then you can literally level with them and speak and connect with them in such a way they're going to go, oh, wow, you actually get me. Like, you know, the lingo.
Kara:
[39:08] Always. When I do readings for people, I do readings for people that have never been to a medium before. In the United States, it's the thing called Midwest nice. And it's like people that live in the middle of the United States where no one ever goes to were like the nice peeps. And so that's just kind of who I am. My personality is like that. I'm a pretty friendly person. I'm a hug it out kind of lady. And so I'm a very safe place for people to come to get a reading. I'm, You know, I dropped my kid off at carpool. I'm a pretty, I'm a mom. I live in the suburbs. Like I'm a pretty normal person on any given day. And so I'm a pretty relatable person. Yeah, most of the time.
Peter:
[39:46] Just the old one all day where you become demonic or something?
Kara:
[39:49] That's right. Weird stuff happens, but we don't talk about that. No. So I think it's just, I'm relatable. And so people feel very safe with me. And so when I do a lot of readings, I tend to do readings for people that haven't had a lot of readings or done a lot of work in that space. And I tend to be a safe place for them. And then when I do coaching, it almost always is people that are in the corporate world trying to figure things out. And they're drawn to me for a reason. And it's because they have some intuitiveness that needs to awaken within them. And their guides are guiding them to me. Like this lady is a lady who understands your shoes and walking in them, and she can also help you awaken into what's next for you. So that tends to be how people find their way to me, whether I'm coaching them one-on-one or doing readings. And then I have a course that I teach, too, around connecting with spirit, like helping people learn how to activate their own conversations with their guides and loved ones in spirit. So that's kind of the type of thing I do.
Peter:
[40:46] No, that was a perfect segue there because I was going to say, like, if anybody's listening and relating to this in any shape or form about, you know, corporate world or that dissatisfaction or anything, and you're saying, like, I know that you teach this, what would be the number one thing or one big piece of advice that you'd really like to give someone if they're in this space and they're, like, they're on the edge? Like, think of them as the person that is now, like, I've never had a reading before. I'm kind of coming from this. I'm dissatisfied. Okay. I've met this. I've heard about this Kara chick. I saw her dropping a kid off at school and she looks normal. So I don't know, should I ask it or not? Because if you have someone like, something's happening here, what should I do? What can I do? What would your advice be there? What would be the one thing you would tell them?
Kara:
[41:30] What I think happens is people go along their merry way, feeling pretty satisfied and pretty on the hamster wheel. Like, I'm busy, I'm doing things, life is busy, my kids are in cheerleading and soccer and this and that, and we're busy and I'm making a good living and life is chaotic, but somehow we're surviving. And then all of a sudden, I don't feel as satisfied as I once did. And what will happen is people will start to go, what is my purpose?
Kara:
[41:58] What am I doing here? What in the hell am I doing with my life? And they don't quite have enough time to do a sacred pause or have a sabbatical or really go deep and discover what that might be. And so if this is you, you might be doing things like this, looking on LinkedIn for other jobs. I'm trying to decide if this, am I supposed to be doing something totally different than what I'm doing? What if I'm meant to go do this thing over here? And we start to look for answers outside of ourselves around what our purpose is. And I truly, truly believe your purpose is a higher purpose. It's not a job. It's a way of being. And if you can start to just align yourself to the being, what is it that lights me up? How can I re-remember the things that bring me joy? And how do I weave in little nuggets of that into my day without going and quitting my corporate job and bankrupting my family and starting all over again, that may not be the place to start. Now, you might end up there. Let me tell you.
Peter:
[43:01] I work with plenty of people. You could do that. Yes, it does happen. It does happen.
Kara:
[43:04] It happened for me. But don't start there. Just start with saying, I'm open to discovering a deeper part of myself, even if it's in five to 10 minutes a day of some silence, of some stillness, of just saying, what do I love? What lights me up? Is it dancing? Is it painting? Is it walking on the beach? Is it laughing with my grandmother? Like, what are the things that light you up and bring you joy? And just start incorporating a little bit of that. And what will happen is your energy will shift. And when your energy shifts, new things will show up for you. And new actions will present themselves. And when you get those intuitive hits and things start coming your way, just act on them and see what happens. That's probably my best piece of advice for people that are feeling in that discomfort of, is this all there is in life?
Peter:
[43:55] Oh, beautifully said once again. And it's so, so true. And I love that. And, of course, you know, just perfect chance to say here, like, beautiful conversation. I know it's not going to be the last conversation we're going to have, but I think that's a beautiful, like, wrap up there. And, of course, if you're really resonating with where Kara's at, Kara's awesome because she offers so many awesome free gifts and tools on her website. so you can go and check out at the karmicleader.com. Isn't that right?
Kara:
[44:26] Yeah, karmicleader.com slash resources. And I've got some new ones coming really soon.
Peter:
[44:31] Really soon.
Kara:
[44:32] Yeah, some activation guides and cool stuff.
Peter:
[44:35] When are they going to be released?
Kara:
[44:36] I don't know. I don't know. Like soon-ish. I don't know. Like whenever the spirit tells me all the details, they gave me the vision of it and now I just need to put it together. But what I really want to do is give you the tool.
Peter:
[44:46] Because we were just talking about this before the recording and we're like, oh, this is juicy. So there's some exciting stuff there.
Kara:
[44:52] So I will have something new coming. I have lots of cool things on there now, meditations and raising your vibe tools and all sorts of stuff. But I will have an activation guide coming to really put it all together, like an ebook of like, how do I go from like monkey mind, chatter, chaos to like opening myself up to receiving intuitive guidance? How do I do that? So it's an activation guide with some workbooks and meditations and stuff. So that's going to be coming in the new year.
Peter:
[45:19] Beautiful. That's not that far away. But again, thank you so much. And, of course, remember, that's karmicleader.com slash resources. You can go check it out there. And there's a plethora of material already there. So, go and check it out. And, again, thank you so much for sharing your journey. And I know it's very personal, but I've loved hearing more about it again. There's always new snippets. There's always new things. I absolutely love it. So, thank you so much again for joining us.
Kara:
[45:44] Such an honor. Thank you.
