Peter:
[0:00] Hey everyone, your joining is here, we're jumping straight into this, I'm joined by the psychic business coach, Julie Chandler, she is here and I tell you what, I love this because we have made the decision to hit record, we have really only one inkling of where this is going to go, the rest is unscripted people, so I don't know where this is going to go, We're going to have lots of fun, lots of laughs, but the best thing is,
Peter:
[0:29] Julie, you're fresh from coming back from an amazing experience, which I'm gutted. I wasn't there live to see it, but you came from Phoenix Conference, which is obviously Business Body Design Live, which is the group that I met you in, which is fantastic. You've got up, you've spoken in front of over a thousand people and here you are. And just so everybody knows, the first moment, and this is going to embarrass Julie right now, the first moment I remember picking up on Julie's energy and herself making herself known to my world and everybody else's world was at the exact same conference this time last year. She grabbed a nice softbox microphone saying, this is so not my thing. I'm an introvert. Yeah. That was the first words out of your mouth or the first one. I'm like, Oh, okay. And then you started leading to the rest because you're psychic, the spirituality. And I'm like.
Peter:
[1:30] We're going to chat the whole thing. But so walk us through it. Like, I love this. It's just a chat, guys. We're working through it, but we've got some amazing things here. So tell us about your experience, what you've learned, what you discovered about yourself. I want to hear it all.
Julie:
[1:44] Yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, starting from last year is probably the best point to start because, essentially I flew over from the UK, you know, like us flying all across the world for these things for me that was huge in itself like I'm like I'm insane what am I doing I don't know anybody here I knew one person and I knew her from one zoom call in that room of like 900 last year and as I say I was adamant I was full introvert I don't know how to connect I don't know how to talk to people if people talk to me I can communicate like I'm not completely mute.
Julie:
[2:22] She's not a hermit and hiding people yeah let's clarify that i mean i'm pretty much a hermit i like i've always joked about that i you know like people are too peopley for me and i just need a lot of energy to myself like a hundred percent so being in a room full of 900 people at that time was a lot and i remember after day one with a migraine and being like what am i doing here this is way too much and i was actually and i shared this on stage this time i was actually looking at flights home after day one last year were you really yes i was like what have i done this is too much like everyone's so out there and so like not even about the confidence but it was so american let's put it that way it was so american and they're very peopley in america they are so peopley there's hooping and hollering and all of that stuff and there's me like oh okay, but by day three I was all in I was yeah like you know all of the things and I remember waking up on day three.
Julie:
[3:31] Again, we can talk this here because it's such a safe space in terms of spirituality, but my guides were talking to me on day three. I woke up, because of the jet lag, I'm up in the middle of the morning, like 2 a.m., 3 a.m., and I've got music on. I'm dancing in the hotel room just to, like, it's my way of clearing my energy. And they were, like, really prepping me of, like, today is the day. And I'm like, I don't know what that means, but okay.
Peter:
[3:53] Yeah, those lovely cryptic messages they drop in for you, yeah.
Julie:
[3:57] I'm like, yeah, it's the day, woohoo. but when when james asked or jenny asked for a share and honest my arm flew up in the air and i i was like that was not me like that was my spirit team that was like up we go the arm is in the air and then jenny's like you in the white and i'm like me shit okay, i remember that moment.
Peter:
[4:22] Because i remember when i was like hang on i did i had this moment of but isn't she an introvert yeah you've done it once which i thought cool but now like now you're going back for seconds i'm thinking i don't know whether you really are i'm thinking have i got mixed messages here what's going i remember.
Julie:
[4:41] That moment like for what's been so powerful for me in my transformation is realizing that naming myself an introvert was putting me in a box that kept me there and it kind of you know I had a misconception of what introvert really was this year and it's kind of completely broken out of that because I've always said like well I'm comfortable to talk but I just don't want to be around people all the time so that means I'm an introvert or because I was chronically shy as well until I was like 11 12 years old like as a child like my mum could not leave me at any kids parties at all like I would go and I would just hold on her hand not talk to anybody and then we would leave she would try and put me in clubs and I just wouldn't talk to anybody, like I've always been, very quiet and very inward and now I look back I'm like well it's because I'm energetically sensitive so of course I was that way as a child because I was probably.
Peter:
[5:39] Seeing sensing.
Julie:
[5:40] Feeling the entire world and I was like that's scary.
Peter:
[5:43] I just want to yeah I want to just bring you back on that because that's a really interesting point because you're saying there that you were you kind of like mislabeled yourself as the introvert and that's obviously a big discovery for you in the last 12 months and so yeah you now have that are you saying you've got that deeper understanding and kind of realizing, hang on, it really isn't that word. So, just out of curiosity, what was your meaning or what was your take of the meaning of introvert like beforehand?
Julie:
[6:10] Yeah.
Peter:
[6:11] And what's your meaning or understanding of that word now? Just I'd love to hear the comparison.
Julie:
[6:15] So, I think, again, because of the shyness, I was adamant that the shyness was linked into the introvert energy of like it's really draining to be around people, which I still have. But then there was kind of this layer and level to it of like right well introverts don't want to go to the party they don't want to talk to people first they don't they just want to stay inwards the whole time or that they can't do these things like that being outwards is exhausting and and things like that and that was where i had sat the whole time now i'm i mean we've both had the pleasure of experiencing Alex I can't remember his surname now but the guy who reads faces and tells you about your personality but when he was talking about the concept of ambivert being in between and I was like I did not know there was a whole other name for the in-between bit that I really felt like I fit in like I can talk but also leave me alone like that that's where I actually sit very well like I'm like I can be open I can be outwards I can do things that allow my energy to the flow without draining me too much. And then it's like retreat back in again. So I would still never say I'm an extrovert.
Julie:
[7:28] I mean, I've never had a proper test with him or anyone else, I'm sure, because there's all these other inhibited, like all of that stuff. I don't know. I just know that I can kind of bridge the gap between the two, introvert and extrovert, as long as I can manage my energy in between. That's what's actually important, is not keeping me in the box that says, I'm introvert, so I must protect my energy at all costs and stay here and not talk to anyone. Actually, I can talk to people. I can showcase what I do and highlight what I do and I can enjoy conversations and make people laugh and do all of those things that you would think is extrovert but yet I will then still need to retreat and recover whereas a lot of extroverts really gain energy and galvanize from that whereas I'm.
Peter:
[8:12] Like okay.
Julie:
[8:12] You've had some of my energy that's all thank you very much so.
Peter:
[8:15] It's bridging the gap between the two yeah but that's been like you're saying I can tell even by you're saying that it's that's been pivotal for you a.
Julie:
[8:24] Hundred percent uh like.
Peter:
[8:25] A hundred percent when you've come to like recognize that and i i love guys i am gonna track down and get alex i have asked him to come on and like he is phenomenal totally different like him and i click it's just it's weird i love his energy i love his personality but he's amazing what he does but but it's interesting too because like so when you recognized and you're kind of going hang on whoa what he's talking ambivert this ambivert thing and you've kind of gone, hang on, I'm bridging the gap. How has that helped you or what's the difference for you since you've identified and been able to bridge that gap?
Julie:
[9:01] I think it made me realize how hidden I had been and how much I had held myself back because of that label that was so stuck in my subconscious of like, you're an introvert, so you've got to do things differently because you're an introvert. You can't do things like these American extroverts are doing you can't run your business in this way and it's like well actually.
Julie:
[9:24] I can like I can be on stage I can be visible I can be seen it's just and it's made me kind of evaluate and look at how I approach my energy a lot like in more detail because I really did just think everything drained me so anything that was outside of my home was draining because I'm an introvert but now I'm like actually I can get energy from situations as long as it's aligned and it's actually really helped me get clear on what is aligned for me because I'm like if I get really drained it's not aligned but if it's something that is really aligned with what I'm supposed to be doing who I'm supposed to be talking to I will get this surge of energy that comes through and I'm like ah so that makes such a difference in all of my business decisions and what I'm doing because this year that it's been trial and error there's been times where I'm like yeah I'm gonna do one-to-one services and then I take payment from people and then I'm like no I'm gonna refund that that's a no because I now can tap into that energy in a different way instead of just being like oh I'm an introvert this is gonna be hard I'm like no the energy is a no like it's just a no it's.
Peter:
[10:32] I'm so happy you've mentioned that because again it's like it's just on this level and it's more the entrepreneurial business level you know connecting with the spiritual connection the energy side we don't often have many people that can totally understand, that aspect of it where it's like in one moment you go, yeah, I'm going to do this. Yeah, the 101 clock, let's do this. And then you might do it and you're going, this, no, this is not, this is not my jam. This is not where it's supposed to be. And so I'm like, oh, I can so try to relate to that. And just to put it out there, guys, it's not because we don't, we are just honouring where it needs to be at for ourselves because, and you'll probably find this, and I love your opinion, Even in that, getting in that vibe, and I love the fact that you understanding this has really helped you to align yourself with your business every more and trust what's kind of coming in. But do you find like with that, it's just a refinement. We're honoring the energy of itself because we are always constantly jumping between energies. And so, that alignment between what we're doing is very important, but it's not always easy to find. And are you finding it better now or are you finding that your business decisions are quicker or faster? Are things developing in a different way than it was before? We have a tech issue. Can you hear me?
Julie:
[11:59] Hello.
Peter:
[12:00] You there?
Julie:
[12:01] I am, yes. It completely just froze.
Peter:
[12:05] That's right. It is a bit of a slow connection, but it seems to have been holding up. Did you catch the last part of what I was asking you there?
Julie:
[12:15] It must have cut out halfway through, I think, so.
Peter:
[12:18] Okay. That's all right. It's like I was saying, like, it's interesting how we can, like, talk about that level about we can try things and then it's like we can then go off and do it only then to realise that's not what we want to do.
Julie:
[12:34] Yeah.
Peter:
[12:34] And it doesn't mean the clients are bad or who we're helping is bad. It's just that we're trying to align with what's right for us. But are you finding now that you've bridged that gap, are you finding that your business decisions and your actions to either start something or stop something, are you finding this is faster? Are you finding yourself more confident with the energy?
Julie:
[13:00] Yeah, 100%. Definitely more confident. And in that same way of saying about it's not the clients. The thing is, when we're energetically sensitive, we want to be able to help everyone with everything. And we have all of these skill sets. so it's like you go oh there's a gap there I'm gonna help that person do that thing and like I said with this year I think it must have been like April May that I was like yeah I could do one-to-one and I literally did like one session with everyone and then was like refunds all round because no I thought this isn't it and but now knowing like what I know everything is sped up at the end of this year from the point that everything I felt like everything for me really aligned in like the end of august september where like everything was clear like out of nowhere and from the point of like conception of ideas to starting an offer it's been like 30 days and i'm like 3xing an offer because it's just so much more aligned so much more in the body just so much more with that energy flow than anything than anything before is it's definitely like you just know what your full body yeses rather than like oh yeah I can do that it's two very different two very different energies for sure well.
Peter:
[14:10] And the truth be told like the person that I first met and saw to the person I'm speaking with right now and I'm like whatever's happened in between can you bottle that because if you start selling it you'll be an instant millionaire.
Julie:
[14:24] Technically it's kind of what I'm trying to sell now because I've moved back into the healing space so it's more than just like I was doing a lot of the psychic connection stuff but now having gone through my own healing journey of that healing the identity healing the energy blocks that have come in the way because of that identity right it's like if we label ourselves in a certain way, if that's not truly who we are energetically, that blocks our energy. So we get all of this debris in our chakra system, our aura, all of that stuff. And I've just been working to clear that, clear that, clear that and be like my most authentic, brightest, shiniest self. And now that's what I help other people do. Because I'm like, as soon as I stepped into that identity, I realized like there was so much like I'm even like moving into helping people to like write emails from the authentic voice because all of it makes such a difference like the amount of times i'm like oh we have to play small we have to be hidden we can't say that because it sounds weird and now i'm just like no you get all of this you get every single authentic fiber of my being because, life is too short to completely stay in that box now i'm out of the box you can't stop me i'm off i'm running i'm doing it i love.
Peter:
[15:41] Your energy it's just so effective you're like you're like bring it on, bring it on. And I think, would you say too now, like, that you're finding more of that authentic self and you're finding the authentic, you know, voice. Is it also kind of tied in with, I guess it's an interesting balance. I'm struggling to kind of word this properly, but it's like you're finding this authentic part of yourself and it just really seems as if what you were just saying there, that it's like, this is me, I don't care, but I mean, I don't care in a nice way, not a bad way.
Julie:
[16:12] Yeah.
Peter:
[16:12] Do you understand what I'm saying?
Julie:
[16:14] Yes. Yeah, 100%. And do you know what's weird is that I've always known, so I'm an Aquarius, so I've always been considered weird. I've always been a little bit out of the box. So I've always thought that I was authentic, that I thought I was using my authentic voice until you shed another layer. And then you're like, oh no, here's some more authenticity for you. In the same way, like all of the stuff that I'm doing now is stuff that I learned and practiced multiple years ago. And I kind of had pushed it to the side. I thought I needed to go a different route, but yeah, it's come back full circle, combining with other things. And that then is then like, it's easier for you to be more authentic because I'm like, oh, I've actually been doing this for years. Like this is not a new thing it's just packaged in a new concept and that gives you so much more confidence and authenticity like I'm honestly I'm doing these healing sessions and it's remote and it's on zoom and I joke with them because I'm like you guys should watch the replays back because I'm doing some really weird shit back here like I'm moving energy in the air I'm placing crystals on things back end and people love it like they'll go I did I watched back it's really weird what you do. And I'm like, I'm just in the energy, just doing the energy thing. But a year ago, that introvert girl would not have done that. She would have like hidden behind, like would have turned the camera off, would have done, you know, but I'm like, no, I do weird stuff with energy. Hello, here I am.
Julie:
[17:33] And it's, it's so, it's not just powerful for me. It's powerful for them to see that, to just be like, oh, she's owning what she does. She's owning this weirdness. Like I can be more me because she's being more her. And that's the powerful ripple effect that I'm so glad that the more I shed, the more my clients see that they can be a hundred percent themselves as well. Like it's safe to be ourselves. That's the thing. Cause I think for years.
Julie:
[17:56] Many of us men and women have been kind of told that it's not safe to be who you authentically are in some way and that's what I just want to get rid of I'm like no let's all just be weird and wonderful because we can we can.
Peter:
[18:09] Well and that's mean the world is a beautiful place and we should just be enjoying it for what it has to offer and it just sounds like you know like you are really claiming your spot in the world going here I am and I love it because you and I that's one thing i know that i feed off when i do my work and when you have that ripple effect there's honestly there's some it's nothing better than seeing someone go wow and you see that shift and going i've become a better part of myself i've reclaimed a better part of myself and there's just something magic in that and you can definitely tell that you know you're having that ripple effect on people and i by the way i'm gonna ask you to send me a clip of one of your healings i want to see the weird shit that you're doing i can do that i can get.
Julie:
[18:55] The va on that.
Peter:
[18:56] I'll be like just whip.
Julie:
[18:57] Up some weird stuff and send it over yeah we can do that.
Peter:
[18:59] Yeah just to have a look at it so you know it's interesting so just quickly too just for you know for the listeners sake just as a bit of a guideline so what were you really doing before and, what is it now that you're really kind of packaging and moving more into?
Julie:
[19:20] Yeah. So I think for me, the last couple of years, I've been trying to softly move into the business psychic stuff. So like really just helping you on the back end of your business. So I've had an integrator business. So for those who are not familiar with that term, it's essentially running stuff in the back end of other people's businesses, like your COO kind of vibes, like project management, that kind of thing. So I've had my hand in every single niche that is going out there business-wise to like help them run the back end of their business. But I always had this spiritual side. So I've been doing the spiritual stuff. I mean, I have transitioned through some things. I started as an animal communicator and animal healer because again, people are people-y. I preferred animals.
Peter:
[20:02] So, and then eventually- Was that your introvert Julie talking, was it?
Julie:
[20:07] Yeah, it was. I mean, but I do say this. I say that animals and dogs actually kind of reawoken like they kind of opened my heart chakra because for a long time i was very closed off emotionally and working with animals and being around animals was completely what made me more human again because i think i was quite a robot for many many years um probably again just to protect myself i was you know if i'm energetically sensitive the world is a big scary place until you understand your energy yeah um, Essentially, I was showing at the biggest mind-body-spirit event in the UK. I had animal products, crystal healing bowls, all of this good stuff. And they were like, hey, you're going to work with people. And I was like, oh, God, I don't want to. So they kind of thrust me.
Peter:
[20:52] You're going to work with people.
Julie:
[20:53] Yeah, I'm like, no, not the people. But I swiftly took their advice. like anything that spirits share and say i you know i will credit myself for that i'm a quick action taker when it comes to that i trust in them fully even if sometimes i get the message wrong right because it's you know it sometimes comes through in a in a weird and wonderful way i'm like yeah context is hard when you're.
Peter:
[21:17] Getting it for yourself.
Julie:
[21:18] A hundred percent like you can kind of guess and you your your your human brain is going well i want it to be this so i'm gonna do that. But from moving through that, and then it was actually in 2020 that I first realized I wanted to bridge the gap between the two, like business and spirituality. And yeah.
Julie:
[21:36] I was really reluctant because I was like, I don't have enough business experience. And that was when I started the integrator business. Cause I was like, let me go and get the business experience. Let me look at all of these businesses and see what's going on. Because I knew there was a lot of people out there in the business space that were like, I'm a business coach. And it's like, yeah, but what's your experience? Like, where has that come from? Like you've been in business six months and you think you're a business like coach. I don't understand. Like I knew that I needed and wanted this wealth of information and visuals inside other people's businesses so I think in a space of 21 years I did project work 21 years in two years I did 21 different niches to get a grip on that's what I'm trying to say clearly 21 different niches yeah I just dipped in and did project management stuff like I was back to back solidly but it was very much of the viewpoint of like I just want to see what's going on so whether it was just like I was adding in a new tech stack or whether I was running an entire launch or you know it would just be different things so that i could fully see what was happening and every single area is completely different but to be honest the back end of businesses are all very similar they all do the same thing and most of the owners have no idea what they're doing so it's it's all the same just in different spaces we all like to think we're different yeah yeah those rules my business is so individual it's like it's not yeah right it's like oh.
Peter:
[23:06] You say all of this stuff but that doesn't apply to me mine's so.
Julie:
[23:08] Different yeah my niche is so niche it's like it's not it's really not um it's like your crm system is the same your website is the same it's all the same on the back end like yeah but essentially it took me a while to have that confidence to kind of go, yeah, actually I can bridge the two and I can use my psychic abilities to give insight to people on their business. So, I can kind of, I'm very good at seeing leaks and like holes and gaps in your business because of the integrator side, but also the spiritual essence and they're just like, there's a big hole there energetically. I'm like, okay, we'll go fix that hole.
Peter:
[23:43] Well, yeah.
Julie:
[23:43] But now.
Peter:
[23:44] But both of the, that's actually really kind of a, that's a real powerful combination because it's be your scope of reference allows you to see it in that framework and of the back end and in the 3D tangible. Yes. And then you've got that beautiful energetic side where you're going, this is just not happening. There's a misalignment here or there's a big gaping hole like, you know, you're not playing full out here. So that's a very, very powerful combination indeed.
Julie:
[24:10] And it's been really enjoyable, but I think it's definitely, there's been, so this entire time for years I've done tarot readings and even as I'm speaking I need to clear my throat because they're like, you're going to talk about the throat chakra now. But essentially like the people that have come to me for readings over the last like eight years, 98% of the women that come to me for readings have a throat chakra block and I'm like I know this is something I need to work with because all of these people come to me and every reading I'm like coughing spluttering like I'm like what is this speak up do something with this voice please and every time they're just like oh yeah I don't use my voice I don't do this I don't do that so putting that together is where i've realized oh okay so not only am i supposed to kind of yes see the gaps and see the see the holes in people's business but i'm supposed to help heal people so that they can like really use their voice authentically and really shine their brightest light possible in their business in the same way that i've uncovered my bright shining light so it's like combining the two so then where i'm moving now i still do the readings where i can kind of give you clarity and insight into your business. The main offerings are.
Julie:
[25:21] Healing your energy so i actually do that by connecting in with divine goddesses so it's actually stepping back from the masculine doing in your business just for a moment just for a second i'm not telling you not to do stuff but just sitting down receiving insight and information before you then take action so my healing sessions are actually structured that we do the crazy i do the crazy movement of the energy so i do reiki crystal healing angel healing all of that combined whatever is needed for the collective you then connect in with a different goddess who gives you insight and information personally for you so you receive that information and then the last piece you actually have journal prompts to kind of take action with the insight that you've received and figure out where that fits in your business and what you need to do with it moving forward so it's like bringing the feminine energy in first before the masculine energy in their business which has been like the the results and the information coming through from people on that has been unbelievable i haven't even relaunched yet and i've got 10 people signed up for the next one like people are like yes this is what i need there's.
Peter:
[26:20] Something in it yeah.
Julie:
[26:21] A hundred percent and then the other side that is now opening up is me helping people do very similar but then integrate it into their emails because so many of it and this is the throat chakra piece for me because i'm like i know i need to do something with messaging but like i'm like i don't want to do messaging in the traditional way and it's been about a year that this has been ruminating I mean, you know this, it's like stuff stays closed. It starts dripping into our aura and it starts dripping in and you're like, yeah, but I don't see what that looks like. Yeah. I can't see it. I can't see it. And I had to do this shine program. Yeah.
Peter:
[26:55] Yeah. As it comes in, like, you know, as we get these stuff, it comes in, but it's not always the correct piece at the right time. And so it's, you, you, you kind of have to wait and then you go, oh, hang on, that's how that connects. And then, but then sometimes like, even for me, like it was just literally two days ago and I was like, I don't think this is quite, I haven't been quite ready to put it together or to record it. And then I was like, I was just reading a post and then boom, I'm like, oh, there it is. That's the missing, oh, my God, that's it. It's just like, it's just in a moment you're going, oh, that's exactly what I need. And then all of a sudden you get a whole new line of energy with that. So I totally understand that. And guys, if you're listening, remember that like when, it's always hard when it's for yourself when you're receiving that information but you'll get it and it's not always in time with human time.
Julie:
[27:46] Yes yeah a hundred percent so i've really been like yeah there's something there there's something there it's a messaging thing i'm not sure what i think it's email because email is the way i communicate best like i can sell in the emails like my instagram is slow it's i don't necessarily enjoy posting there right now like i don't want to always do a video but if i can sit down and just write a key email and i'm like whoa whoa.
Peter:
[28:10] Whoa whoa whoa whoa you're saying that you don't like doing video and you're just i'm watching you you are like i'm thinking where has this come from like you're doing reels and videos like every day and i'm like look at your face your face says it all.
Julie:
[28:26] I'm trying that's where that is that comes from the i'm trying you're kicking my ass in that department, stepping on stage the other day has given I'm now like oh okay 2025 we're going to do some more front-facing stuff because the amount of reels I do will be like a b-roll so just a little video of me and then text over the top or an audio and now I'm like huh no people connect with me like it's me they connect with so I want to do some real front-facing and I'm going to challenge myself to do that this year of like actually two three times a week actually speak to the camera talk about a thing whether it's channeled whether it's something from the group whatever it is and I'm gonna make that effort but I feel like I haven't the last year I'm kind of intermittent with so I do put reels up but a lot of them feel like I'm still hiding like I feel like b-roll is me hiding it's just like oh here's me sitting journaling look at me.
Julie:
[29:21] It's not actually me talking it's not me communicating but email has always been the thing for me like i can i can really hit with email and so the i had to do my shine healing program to realize like oh the email thing is actually a combination of the healing and the email stuff so it's like i will teach you how to make money with your emails but we're going to clear your throat chakra we're going to look at that past life wound we're going to look at the dna wound of the witch wound we're going to look at all of that first before i get you in the right energy to send an email because the work I did for my last look for the shine the six-week healing container launch yeah the energy that I was in I was sending six emails a day unapologetically people were there was an there was a copywriter who messaged me and was like your emails are amazing I've sent them to my client so I'm like okay the signs are coming in that it's time to do the email program like if a copywriter who I don't know is in the in my emails going this is brilliant i've sent it to my client and it's like yeah i know i can do emails thank you very much universe oh wow yeah i mean it not to say that everybody needs to send that many emails but i was like the stuff was pouring out of me like what i felt and what i loved about my offer was just i was like here's an email here's an email here's an email this is why you need it this is why you'll benefit this is what it will give you this is what i love about it, they could feel that love from me and i think that's always like one of the biggest missing pieces is.
Peter:
[30:46] That people don't show.
Julie:
[30:47] How much they love their.
Peter:
[30:48] Offer yeah they're.
Julie:
[30:48] Just like here's my thing not like this.
Peter:
[30:51] Is brilliant.
Julie:
[30:51] Like you have to love it and.
Peter:
[30:53] Radiate that.
Julie:
[30:54] Love and if you're not in the right energy before you send those emails you're not going to radiate that love they're not going to connect with that and that's what i.
Peter:
[31:00] Want to give people.
Julie:
[31:01] I want to give them that missing piece.
Peter:
[31:02] I love that and that's like it speaks volumes and i think that's a it's a great um little segue there to apologize and not apologize at the same time to my audience because they know that i'm not a spammer at all however when i'm in sync and it's in flow you'll hear from me and i was literally just same thing it was like last week i just got inspired by the email i was like no we've got to get into this and i wrote the first one and i'm like there's another one and And then I was like, okay, I do that. And then I'm like, oh, my God, there's another one. And I'm like, okay, I'm just going with it, probably not. And it was great. And so many people were responding. You just know because it was. It was not in there. I was just genuinely going, guys, this is what I'm feeling. This is going to help you. And whatever the case may be. I do love it because I did three. And in all honesty, I felt there was a fourth. And, but it wasn't clear. And because it wasn't clear, I'm like, I'm not going to force this. I'm just going to, I'll step back from it. I'll let it be. And it's like, I feel like, it's okay. It's kind of done its job. It's fine. But I literally had a client going, where's number four? I was waiting for number four. It's just like they were picking up on the energy.
Peter:
[32:19] I'm not asking you to whip one up, but like I was just, it was so good and I was waiting for number four, you know? So I totally understand that. And that's the same thing, like, and even at the moment, like, I know for myself as well, like, you know how you're saying you haven't really been showing up or you really haven't been facing the camera. And I know myself also because we're energetically sensitive, but I also like to think that we're energetically authentic.
Julie:
[32:50] Yeah.
Peter:
[32:51] And that's kind of a relatively new term because that literally just came out of nowhere. I'm like, oh, okay, we'll run with that. And it was like, because I'm like, where did that come from? But I like it. And just in case, if you're not knowing what that is, and I know that you can totally relate to this, Julie, because it's exactly what you're talking about, is the fact is if like, we don't want to turn up. It sounds, I'm trying to word this makes sense, like it's not an excuse, but because we're being energetically authentic to ourselves and of course, to our audience, it's when we have that introvert time, when we need to step back or we need to cocoon or we need to recharge, or it could be a simple thing of like, right now, we're not aligned. We're going through our own personal stuff. We're not the people to like banter with a bit of an email. Oh, we just know it's like, it's just not lined up. Our energy is not in it. Our heart is not in it. And I know for myself, you know, speaking, I just kind of, I do, I pull back and I'm like, you know, I won't be as intense, but then tell you what guys, when I'm in flow, you'll be tired of me going, oh, he's Pete's video again, like every day, like, oh, hang on, this Julie chick sending me a number six email. Like seriously this is an email on the hour every hour if.
Julie:
[34:07] I could i would.
Peter:
[34:10] But is but is it and that's mean i think that's how because obviously we're in the energetic field we just operate a little differently that way because we have to honor ourselves and you know we have to be let's mean we we love helping and we love being of service to people yeah but it It has taken me a long time. I don't know about you, but it did take me a long time to learn to pull back and go, I want to help people, but in order to help people, I also first need to help and look after myself as well.
Julie:
[34:43] A hundred percent. Like you fully have to have enough in your cup to fill other cups. I always like, because I'm like, because I've, I don't want to say trained in tarot because I self-taught myself tarot, but the temperance card. That's what we connect.
Peter:
[34:56] I did that too. Yeah.
Julie:
[34:57] I self-taught with most stuff. Again, saying about the authenticity. So spiritual authenticity is one of my pillars in my business because I'm very much like, I never resonated with spiritual teachers. You're talking 20 odd years ago when I'm like, oh, spirituality, let's go to a class. And you're surrounded by this really floaty. I don't like saying love and light. It's not my thing. I'm like, just love. Love is good. And even that, I'm like, you don't have to say it. like it's just a given it's there we don't have to put it out every two seconds and for me it's like that spiritual authenticity was really missing back in the day and thankfully so many more people are in it now but it is that it's like having enough in your cup it's learning the things your way finding what resonates for you and if someone else says oh you shouldn't do that or that's the wrong way to do it it's like no this is my way to do it and standing in that power and that authenticity but I agree in terms of the social media it is like.
Julie:
[35:56] It's not just that we post a video and it's out there. It is this energetic ripple that goes out and it's then if there's a conversation and then people want to talk and it becomes this space and you're like, again, because you want to help, it's your natural innate energy of like, I'm here to serve. So therefore you feel obliged to respond to the text message and respond to the things that are coming in because you've put something out there. So it's like business wise, we've got to put ourselves out, but energetically we have to put a cap on certain things and be like, okay, this is too much i need to just do some stuff for myself and i can i can go completely dark and silent for like a week doesn't mean i'm unhappy or depressed in the back end but i just need to recoup and find my own energy like again it's what thursday now so the event ended on what saturday i've had so many messages i haven't got back to anybody because i'm like i'm not ready i'm not ready to communicate do the energetic thing again i'm like i just need breathing space i will get back to people, when I get back to people, I actually have an out of office on my Instagram and my email nowadays to just be like, hey, looking after my energy, I'll get back to you soon. Because it just puts that buffer in between of like, I'm not ignoring you, just looking after me first, which I think is important.
Peter:
[37:10] Like, it's absolutely super important. So, I just love, I love like, honestly, we could talk and talk and talk and there's so much to kind of, you know, talk about, but just be mindful here because I'm like, it's like looking at it and going, I want to bring this back and I want to kind of, let's get some questions in here and like off the cuff and it's like, let's see where this is going to take us. So, having a look at this and like, especially like I love this and I love the fact that, you know you've shared such a pivotal understanding like it is the transformation for you even witnessing it from the outside it it's there you can honestly it's it's physical it's energetic it's all wrapped up in one it's massive and it's so beautiful it's almost like you have is you've I don't want to use the butterfly analogy I would like to because it sounds prettier but the metaphor that's coming to me is like I feel like you've really shed a skin yeah it's like Like, it's the layers, like layers that no longer serve you. Or it's almost like, you know, I do get this visual of like a snake skin or an alligator skin almost. And it's like, because it was like an armor for you. And it was kind of, it was thick. It was like, it was really tough. And it's like, now you're like, I don't need that anymore. And you've dropped it and you've let go of it. And it's like, now you're like this brand new shiny, you know, it's like, look at my scales. They're beautiful, silky and smooth. Yeah.
Peter:
[38:38] I wish it was the butterfly, but that's not what was coming to you. So I'm just, I've just been honest.
Julie:
[38:42] And I'll tell you something. So last year, this time last year, so I actually, again, I won't go into the full story. There was a three-year employment tribunal court case that I went through that ended October last year. And since then, the snake image was following me everywhere. Every time I pulled a card, it was the snake. And when I went to BBD Live last year and we did the fear meditation, I just heard the snake hissing in the fear meditation. And I was like, oh, God, we've got some shedding to do this year. And that has been my entire year. It has just been shedding. Anything that doesn't suit me, get rid of it. I got rid of the integrator clients like I'm they're almost all gone they're not fully all gone but like I got rid of like 95% of that income I got rid of like this identity that didn't serve me anymore I would try something and they'd be like nope that's not it get rid of that like I have been fully in the snake energy and it is the snake specifically like it still follows me everywhere right.
Peter:
[39:38] Well that makes because I'm like.
Julie:
[39:39] That's why the butterfly.
Peter:
[39:41] Sounds much prettier and nicer and.
Julie:
[39:43] I'd like it to fit.
Peter:
[39:45] But it's like, nope, it's snake skin. I'm getting it. I'm like, okay. But, and that's, I mean, again, testament to kind of just acknowledging and being honest with what you're receiving, what you're seeing and that kind of stuff you can't. But I like it because I'm like, I'd like to say this because I'm thinking, wouldn't it be a nice befitting thing for our conversation? But no, sorry, Julie, it's the snake.
Peter:
[40:08] But, again, that just goes to show you guys, like when you're doing it, Like there's when we're doing these things, like I always say, It's never, when these things are kind of coming through, it's never for us. We have it, but you just don't know what it's going to mean to the person that you're saying it to. And I love that. It was a snake. It was just, it's been following me. I love that. So, what a beautiful validation. And it's kind of like all coming off. So, that's awesome. But speaking of this, I think it's really helpful for anyone who's listening going, because, you know, you keep talking about like, I'm shedding and I'm letting go in this. And I think there's so many people that are aware that they need to start making the moves. They do want to make a change or they want to start shedding. But I feel like they just don't know how to start or how to happen. You know what I mean? Like, it's just like going, they know it here, but here in the body, it's like the fear is going to stop them for whatever shape or form. So, for that reason, what advice, if someone was in that position of like, I feel you, like, wow, Julie, that's amazing. Like, how did you start this process? What did you do? What advice would you give someone if they're asking you that question?
Julie:
[41:25] Yeah. So energetically, I always work, again, this comes from the tarot background, because most of the time when you do tarot, you're like past, present, future readings, right? But I call it potential because I'm like, actually, the future is any potential timeline that is available to you. So past, present, potential, I will always look at, well, usually you're slightly uncomfortable where you are right now for whatever reason. That's usually the catalyst for you wanting change. So if you feel some kind of uncomfortability, you feel stuck, you feel stagnant, you feel bored, you're frustrated, whatever that emotion is that's coming up, then you want to look at, okay, what do I actually want? And that's your potential, because you can tap into anything. And when you think about your potential, that's when you can then look back to the past and say, what do I need to let go of? And it might feel scary and it might feel big. It doesn't mean that you have to do these massive shifts straight away as well. I am the queen of simplicity. I'm like, everything can be really, really simple. One thing at a time, one step at a time. So it might just be like, oh, okay, I feel like my whole friend group sucks and I feel like they're holding me back well maybe just, hang out with them one day less a month like start small you don't have to be like right cutting them all off I hate them all we're gonna block them we don't have to go you can you absolutely can if you have the confidence to do that go all in but like well that's what you feel like you.
Peter:
[42:49] Need to do like it's like.
Julie:
[42:51] I'm throwing out.
Peter:
[42:52] This I'm throwing them out I'm getting a whole new set.
Julie:
[42:54] Yeah like screw them no it's definitely like you can take small steps you can take small action and it's finding i mean i would always say i mean if they're listening to this i'm gonna guess they're spiritual anyway but finding spiritual practices that kind of bring you back to neutral as well because when you are in that frustration like this year with me with my integrator clients it's like they're paying the bills but yeah i'm trying to casually let them go one at a time when I haven't always got the income coming in from the other side yet and, I would put this like frustration, this is also a message for future Julie, because clearly this is going to come up this year as well with the last two remaining people. But future Julie needs to hear this too.
Peter:
[43:35] I'm listening to you start that sentence. I'm like, oh my God, this sounds like you're directing it at me.
Julie:
[43:42] I was like, if you go back and watch the replay.
Peter:
[43:45] You'll see my eyes just kind of go, oh crap, here we go.
Julie:
[43:49] Yep we have a habit of coming away from neutral and we put emphasis and energy behind something and that causes a resistance in some way shape or form to releasing and it's our ego that's like don't let it go this is comfortable it's not comfortable though that's the truth it's just what it's used to and when you come back to neutral and you can kind of remove the like even i'm talking like the excitement as well as the negative so if you're like super excited to release something, you know, like I'm, I'm like, yes, get rid of all the integrator clients. Like, woohoo. But if I followed just that energy, I'd get rid of everything and then have no money. So it's kind of like, actually, we need to find a middle ground. So on the other hand, yes, they're frustrating me. They're pushing my boundaries. So that's making me angry, making me want to get rid of them. But if you come back to neutral and you're in a space of like, okay, what is actually the best for me? How can I go about doing this? Like from a space of neutrality rather than within the emotion you will it's much easier to actually release with confidence because yeah if you move with the energy of emotions anything is happening and going on so try to come back to neutrality.
Peter:
[44:58] But I love that. And that's a, it's a bit of a way because I always say to people, like, it's the same thing. I don't tend to think of emotions as like up or down, even though technically vibrationally and, you know, frequency wise, they are. But I always say like, and I love it when, because, you know, my spirit team gave me is like, you've got to look at it as, you know, there's a center of neutrality. That's where you, it's neutral, where you're not really feeling anything. You're actually just being, you're in a moment and you're not necessarily feeling it. and it's like it doesn't matter what if you're trying to change your state too quickly you're bypassing that space and you can.
Julie:
[45:32] Fall back.
Peter:
[45:33] And you're gonna make mistakes.
Julie:
[45:35] Because you're.
Peter:
[45:37] Not taking in the whole situation before it is i love the way that you articulated that that was really good.
Julie:
[45:42] Well even if you think about like everybody says like the answers come in the stillness right so like that's what meditation guides are all saying the same thing that's all we're saying here is like that stillness is that neutrality it's not that you need to actually be silent and be in a lotus position to receive that like insight and information but you can get that in a lotus position no i was gonna say i was like my hips and knees new no no no, i almost feel.
Peter:
[46:10] Like this needs to be like a challenge of like okay pete's got to try 50 different meditation poses.
Julie:
[46:15] Just to see. Which one brings you closer to story.
Peter:
[46:20] That'll make for a great Instagram reel. Yeah. Yeah.
Julie:
[46:24] Day one.
Peter:
[46:25] Yeah. My hips are out. I can't walk properly after doing those poses.
Julie:
[46:30] I'm now in the emergency room.
Peter:
[46:36] You can so see it i was there i feel like we should challenge each other just compared videos of.
Julie:
[46:41] Oh my gosh that would be so fun, we could do like australia versus uk meditation like groups and that just mock ourselves in these spaces now my favorite is when you're involved and then we'll have.
Peter:
[46:55] We'll have the us in there as well.
Julie:
[46:57] Yes yeah my favorite is when you get all the so i once went and this is why i'm self-taught by the way because I once went to a medium who she was teaching you how to be a medium and she was sat there and she said unless you sit in the silence for 30 minutes every single day and extend your energy outwards you will never communicate with spirit and while I was sat there having not done that spirit was with me and I'm like I don't think I need to be here because I've already got so and so here so we're going to log off this call thank you very much teaching old.
Peter:
[47:27] School yeah i think.
Julie:
[47:28] That uh.
Peter:
[47:29] Commonly for uk that the reference is you got to sit in the power.
Julie:
[47:35] Yes yeah yeah that's what i think she had actually she wasn't from the uk but she'd come through there's a school there's not that far from me which is weird considering i've never gone to it but like that's what they teach yeah it's like i'm in my power all day long what are you talking about like stop yeah.
Peter:
[47:52] But see i look that's i love it we're gonna have a conversation that's.
Julie:
[47:55] A total different.
Peter:
[47:55] Episode we're going to talk about.
Julie:
[47:56] Exactly that but i do.
Peter:
[48:00] Coming back to it i love the kind of advice that you're kind of doing there and and it's like it's like the other thing too is it's just following it and trying to do one thing at a time and it'll kind of gradually start to shift for you and then it's like did you find it what would device would you be like saying because it's interesting like you really had a shift with a label, you really had a shift with an identity. Do you think that's an important thing for people to have?
Julie:
[48:32] Yeah. So it depends if they have that label. I mean, most of us will have some kind of label. It depends how strongly your identity sits behind it, to be honest. And because most of the time we don't look at our identity, we just are existing. So we don't go, oh, actually this is a label I've put on myself. It wasn't until I was trying to stand up in the room that I was like oh no I'm an introvert like it wasn't something I thought about consciously over and over again until I had tried to do something different but it is a good exercise to kind of look at the labels you do put on yourself because especially with women you get this a lot where it's just like I'm a mother and then they don't put any other labels in and they don't put anything else in and you're like you know you can be more than one thing like it's okay to have well it's like I get that that's your purpose but you can also have multiple purposes so it's like it's kind of looking at what you what box you're putting yourself in and especially if you're ever putting like just i'm just a i'm just this i'm just that then you definitely need to do the identity work of like no that's not a true story and it's really finding so your identity is enforced because your your brain is has seen examples of why that is true so then it's just a case of like well where are the examples where that's not been true where have you so for me like I stood up in a room of 800 people, or this weekend I stood up on stage in front of a thousand people.
Julie:
[49:53] An introvert technically could not do that. Like a full introvert would not have gone to the event in the first place. So actually, I can look at that as proof and be like, no, no, that's not a label that is set in stone. So what are the labels that people have? What is it? So whoever is listening, it's like, what's the number one thing that you think is holding you back from whatever it is that you want?
Julie:
[50:16] And looking at that label and going, actually, is that really true? Or is that just because I am looking at and witnessing the stories that make it true in my mind but where are the stories where that hasn't been true and can I lean more into that and explore more of that to push the boundary a little bit because again you don't have to have a complete change of identity I'm not saying I'm an extrovert like I just have I have introvert tendencies I have introvert energy but I can also stand up in a room and hold the room, Both is possible. Like one fixed thing is not the only way.
Peter:
[50:47] I love that. And that's such valuable, valuable advice to so many of like, don't, like we have to work on that. We have to look at that. And it is because we just kind of go along with it, but we don't realize how much that word or the identities that we place on ourselves or others place on us and that we just kind of take on board. But we don't realize how much they affect our day-to-day interactions and how we're showing up in the world, you know, how we're showing up for others and how we're showing up for ourselves. So, you know, it's such a powerful thing. And it's like if you look at this and kind of just I love it and I love this conversation and I guarantee you like we're going to have further conversations
Peter:
[51:32] down the track, absolutely. But just to kind of like wrap this episode up, But if you now, looking at the lovely Julie that you are now, looking at the Julie beforehand, if you could talk to her and give her one piece of advice, what would it be?
Julie:
[51:51] Oh, the top of mind thing is just to say you've got this. Because I think one of the things that has come this year is me stepping into the confidence piece of light and trusting that I've got this. I've always trusted in spirit, but then I would still second-guess things and doubt things. Like I have an anxiety brain, I'm very air-signed, my brain is all over the place 24-7. So there is always the like, oh, I know this to be true, but yet, and I would put other things to it. Telling her like now you've really got this like you've got this got this like anything is possible, like that is and it sounds really far-fetched but when I look back I'm like wow the amount of stuff I've shifted and changed this year is unbelievable and that was without me like really having that confidence and that power to do that so I'm like so excited for the next year of like what can I grab what can I do what can I extend into this year because anything is possible like I'm on stage with people who are making a million dollars and it I'm like I can do that like this is it we can do that that's not a problem we can all do that if we want to do that so yeah really just like more trust more faith more more leaping more leaping and letting the net appear for sure.
Peter:
[53:08] Oh, love it. Oh my God, your energy is infectious. I just feel like this is really just the beginning of something so great for you. I cannot wait to see it unfold moving forward. And as I said, I know there's going to be plenty of more awesome conversations to come between us because I can't wait. But I just want to say thank you so much. And of course, if people want to get on their socials and connect with you, where can they reach out with you? Of course, once we've got it, We'll put it in the show notes, but just give everyone a quick shout out for us.
Julie:
[53:41] So I am mostly on the Instagram when I have the energy. It is Julie Chandler Psychic.
Peter:
[53:47] You might be catching her right there. Please remember, if you get that email, she's looking after her energy. Like if you DM her.
Julie:
[53:54] 100%. Like, no, I'll get back to you at some point, but maybe not instantaneously. But yeah, Julie Chandler Psychic there. I am also reviving my podcast, which is Intuitively Led podcast. So that will be coming back in sometime next year. I'm not even going to put a date on it because it will be, it'll be Q1, but I don't want to, I want to let it flow rather than push for a certain date. So we will see when that comes back, but I'm excited to just talk all things intuition for essentially for your business, but it will help everyone and anyone
Julie:
[54:22] because yeah, energy is energy and that fixes everything. So yeah.
Peter:
[54:26] Well, I love it. And as we've discovered here and through this conversation, as much as you might be helping with business but we are explicitly interlinked as a person with business and you know one can't really exist without the other and so it's it's also a very personal journey and again julia i just want to say thank you so much for sharing the journey that you've been on and it's been such a privilege to be a part of it and in just hear you talk about it oh your energy is so infectious it's like i just wish we weren't so far away because right now i'd like jump through the screen give you the biggest hug and just like oh my god it's like i feel like i just want to celebrate with you but again it's been an absolute pleasure so thank you so much for coming on thank you so much.
Julie:
[55:06] Thank you.
Peter:
[55:07] All right, awesome. And we'll be chatting soon, guys. So watch this space. We'll be back with Julia absolutely without a doubt. And I'll make sure I'll get those reels and zooms of her doing her wavy weird shit in the background of her feelings. I'll get that just for our listeners. So stay tuned for that.
